IDP Scoring and Comparison

Tuesday, July 8, 2008
By Lee

Fantasy Football with Individual Defensive Players (IDP) is on the rise.  Some of the traditional fantasy footballers do not want to make the jump.  Not wanting to make the jump is different than not knowing how to make the jump.  We have found that some Owners and Commissioners would like to make the change and begin using defensive players but the unknown scares them off.  For the Football Jabber Fantasy Football Strategy Playbook today we will look at setting up scoring for your league and compare how some of the defensive players match up to offensive players to give you a better idea of a players value when drafting.  To get more of an idea on the basics there is a link to an earlier Football Jabber article at the bottom of the page that will be helpful.

When setting up your IDP league there is nothing to change on the offensive side of the ball (unless your not going to use any offensive players).  It’s as simple as dropping the Defensive Team/Special Teams and adding roster spots and starters in the lineup for defensive positions.  Of course dropping the D-Team is a choice as well, not mandatory.

You can break the D players up a few different ways.  For example, you can have DE and DT or just D-Linemen.  You can have all D-Backs lumped together or separated by position.  Same with Inside and Outside Linebackers.  The flexibility is there when setting it up, just as it is on the offensive side of the ball.  Adding some Flex positions shakes things up to play to your strengths as well.  Wanna play like a 3-4 or 4-3?  Go for it, it’s your league!

Here is an example of setting rosters for defensive players to where you have an equal amount of Offensive and Defensive players.  For simplicity we are not going to add the flex for this example but you can if you wish.  We will also use this in the comparison of players later.

Offensive Starters
QB-1
RB-2
WR-3
TE-1
K-1
Defensive Starters
LB-3
DB-3
DL-2

That was easy enough, right?  Now the missing ingredient is the scoring.  This is where a lot of new leagues to IDP get stuck because they just don’t know how to set it up.  We will give you an example that will give you a baseline and then you can tweek a point or two here and there to fit your tastes.  Again we are going to throw some offensive numbers out there because this will be needed when looking at the scoring comparisons.

Offensive Scoring
Passing TD’s: 4 Points
Passing Yards:  .05 per yard (1 point per 20 yards)
INT’s Thrown: -1 per INT
Rushing/Receiving TD’s: 6 points
Rushing/Receiving Yards: .10 per 1 yard (1 point per 10 yards)
Receptions: .5 per reception (1 point per 2 receptions)
2 pointers: 2 points

Defensive Scoring
Tackles: 2 points
Tackles Assist:1 point
Sacks: 2 points
Safety: 3 points
INT’s: 2 points
Forced Fumble: 2 points
Fumble recovery: 2 points
Passes Defensed: 1.5 Points
Blocked FG: 3 points
Blocked Punt: 2 Points
INT, Fumble recovery, Punt return, Kick return TD’s: 6 points

These are the scoring rules taken from our example league in the Fantasy 101 | Starting a Dynasty League series.  They can be adjusted as needed.

So…you have your rosters and scoring set up…it’s draft time. IDP rookies tend to go after the big name Defensive stars when in all actuality they may not be the best IDP starter.  Seems logical.  Logical if your going in unprepared.  Why make your first IDP draft a learning experience?

So just how do these guys compare in the scoring?  What we are going to do is look at the top 10 from each defensive position and compare their 2007 scoring to an offensive player with a similar total.  One of the hardest parts of moving to an IDP format for the owner is when to draft and straying from their traditional draft strategy.  Why take your 2nd or 3rd RB/WR at a time when you can get a LB that scored twice as much as them last year?  Of course your going to go with the flow of your draft but this will give you an idea of the value of defensive players in comparision to some offensive players.

Position Overall D-Player 07 Points O-Player 07 Points
#1 #5 Patrick Willis, SF 332.5 Peyton Manning 330.6
#2 #15 DJ Williams, Den 266.5 Terrell Owens 266.5
#3 #16 Brian Urlacher, Chi 263 Braylon Edwards 260.9
#4 #19 DeMeco Ryans, Hou 259.5 Jay Cutler 259.65
#5 #20 Jon Beason, Car 259 Reggie Wayne 257.4
#6 #23 London Fletcher Baker, Was 257 Joseph Addai 256.1
#7 #26 Nick Barnett, GB 252 John Kitna 252.2
#8 #32 Kirk Morrison, Oak 243 Adrian Peterson 242.4
#9 #36 Ernie Sims, Det 241 Chad Johnson 241.2
#10 #37 EJ Henderson, Min 240 Eli Manning 238.3

What you can grasp pretty quick here is that the LB’s are the RB’s of your Defense.  These are some pretty big names on the same scoring level as some of the LB’s, huh?  You may also notice that you don’t see some of the big names that you would think you would find here.  More on that in the link at the bottom of the page.  Don’t think you have to jump to get the top LB.  You might notice that there is not a big drop off between a lot of them (aside from Willis) so you don’t have to be the guy to start the run.  If your comfortable with the rest of your draft up until the time your thinking about it and feel you want to though, go for it!

Position Overall D-Player 07 Points O-Player 07 Points
#1 #66 Nate Clements, SF 209 Plaxico Burress 209.5
#2 #72 Marcus Trufant, Sea 205.5 Willis McGahee 207.3
#3 #74 Leigh Bodden, Cle 204.5 Earnest Graham 204.7
#4 #78 Chris Harris, Car 203.5 Vince Young 197.8
#5 #79 Richard Marshall, Car 202.5 Kevin Curtis 197.5
#6 #81 Cedric Griffin, Min 201 Edge James 197.3
#7 #82 Roman Harper, NO 201 Bobby Engram 195.7
#8 #85 Cortland Finnegan, Ten 199.5 Chris Cooley 195.7
#10 #87 Sammy Knight, Jax 198.5 Roddy White 193.7
#10 #94 Michael Lewis, SF 195.5 Maurice Jones-Drew 193.5

As you can see with the comparisons they are a little off.  This is because there is a huge gap of D players that scored from Earnest Graham to Vince Young.  They were staggered to put more names in instead of repeating names.  You can still get the visual.

Position Overall D-Player 07 Points O-Player 07 Points
#1 #143 Jared Allen, KC 170 Ryan Grant 171.6
#2 #186 Trent Cole, Phi 156 Nate Burleson 156.8
#3 #197 Patrick Kerney, Sea 153 Hines Ward 154.3
#4 #198 Terrell Suggs,Bal 153 Justin Fargus 153.3
#5 #202 Jason Taylor 152 Owen Daniels 151.8
#6 #204 Adewale Ogunleye,Chi 151.5 Ronnie Brown 150.6
#7 #213 Kelly Gregg,Bal 148.5 Rob Bironas 150
#8 #222 Kyle Vanden Bosch,Ten 145.5 Heath Miller 145.6
#9 #228 Mario Williams, Hou 143.5 Roy Williams 144
#10 #237 Will Smith,NO 141.5 Nick Folk 142

Yes, these can be like the kickers of your Defense.  With that, getting the right guy can give you a big match-up advantage over your opponent.  Remember, they have to start them too!

That pretty much wraps up this addition of the Football Jabber Fantasy Football Strategy Playbook.  Hopefully this gives you some piece of mind if your looking to start using IDP players in your league or if you just don’t know what to do when it comes time for the draft.

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7 Responses to “IDP Scoring and Comparison”

  1. IDP Scoring and Comparison : Football Jabber…

    Fantasy Football with Individual Defensive Players (IDP) is on the rise. Some of the traditional fantasy footballers do not want to make the jump. Not wanting to make the jump is different than not knowing how to make the jump. We have found that so…

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  2. IDP Scoring and Comparison : Football Jabber…

    Fantasy Football with Individual Defensive Players (IDP) is on the rise. Some of the traditional fantasy footballers do not want to make the jump. Not wanting to make the jump is different than not knowing how to make the jump. We have found that so…

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  3. [...] Never played in an IDP league, but if I did I would read this first. [Football Jabber] [...]

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  4. [...] Never played in an IDP league, but if I did I would read this first. [Football Jabber] [...]

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  5. I personally am not a huge fan of IDP but that’s because I’m stuck in my old ways - I’m in a complex keeper league (auction based with short & long term contracts) that is 22 years old, to get people to add IDP now would be tough.

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  6. Lee

    Wow! I would say that a 22 year-old Keeper league is successful enough, that shouldn’t be messed with.

    I personally love IDP but I continue to play in other formats as well. Too many in fact…lol.

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  7. [...] Individual Defensive Players and wonder how they stack up to Offensive players?  Check out the IPD Scoring and Comparision.  You can also check out the basics on playing in IDP leagues [...]

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